– Hi, thanks for joining
us for The Family Plot: Gardening in the Mid-South. I’m Chris Cooper. It may be winter, but
that does not mean you can’t eat from your garden. Today, we’re talking
about winter edibles. Also, it may be winter
soon, but there are still things to do in the garden. That’s just ahead
on The Family Plot: Gardening in the Mid-South. – (female announcer)
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Thank you. [cheerful country music] – Welcome to The Family Plot. I’m Chris Cooper. Joining me today is Carol Reese. Ms. Carol is
the Ornamental Horticultural Specialist
[laughing] for University of
Tennessee Extension. And, Rudy Pacumbaba is here. Dr. Rudy is the
Extension Specialist for Alabama A & M University or Alabama
Cooperative Extension. Thank you for joining us. – Thank you.
– Thank you. – All right, Ms. Carol, it’s
always good to have you here. – Always fun to be here. – Always good to have you. Now, let’s talk about
cool season edibles. So, there are cool
season edibles? – In fact, I prefer cool season edibles.
[Chris laughing] I mean, [laughs] who likes
gardening out in the heat and the sweat and the bugs?
– I’m with you. – I know a lot of people do. Some people love the heat.
– Yeah, right. – But, I’m not, I’m a wimp. [Chris laughing]
I often tell people that once it gets
to be high summer, I wanna go in the house and
lie down and wait for October. [laughing] – Oh, man.
– But, I think it’s easier to garden in the fall and spring and some of these things
we’re gonna talk about today will actually
overwinter pretty well and I’m all about
pretty as well. As a human, I like to eat,
but I also enjoy beauty. So, what we’re gonna
talk about today is not only edible, but it’ll
be pretty in your landscape or in your winter containers and a lot of people do like
to do the winter containers. I personally like to have
something right there on the deck I can snag and grab
and put in the kitchen without having to run
out into the garden in the rain or the cold. – Okay, makes sense to me. Alright, so which
vegetables would you like to start with then? – I guess if you made
me pick just one. – Just one. Come on, Ms. Carol.
– I may have to go with the chards.
– Okay. You like chard, alright. – I like chard. Honestly, I don’t eat it as
much as I like to look at it. [chuckling] But I can eat it and I do like any kind of green,
actually, chopped up. I always said if you put
enough garlic and bacon, anything is gonna taste good.
[laughing] – All right, bacon.
– And good for you. [laughs] – Uh huh, I can get
with that. [laughs] – But chard is so easily grown and they have so many colors. The last few years,
it’s gotten easy to find some of the rainbow chards
even at the vegetable sections at most any garden center
and they’re very tough. They hold up well
through freezes and that’s the thing. Some of these things we plant
as cool season, the yield, I wanna kinda wanna diss what
people call flowering cabbage or flowering kale.
– Yes. – But it’s like big,
beautiful, purple, or white, or pink roses ’cause they melt. [laughing]
Once we have a good hard freeze, they’re [blows out air], they’re mush.
– They go down, yes. – They do. So, that’s one
reason the chards, and I’ve had chard
overwinter well, look good through
spring, even not bolt in the heat of summer,
and bolting, of course, is flowering and going to seed,
which is usually the death of a biennial type plant
like that or a winter annual. And, it will come
back not, as soon as we start to get
some cool weather, it starts to flourish again. So, I really have
had them almost act like short lived perennials. – Okay, okay. – Two or three years sometimes,
I have one in my garden. – That’s a long time,
yeah, two, three years. – The bad thing is in
the summer, of course, the insects do like to eat it. And you do have to worry about
the same kinds of insects that would eat your cabbage. So, you have to
watch ’em for that and monitor for pest issues. – Okay, so pretty much the
same pests as well, okay. – The colors, though,
are what are so amazing. Mostly, its stem color,
but a lot of them will have deeply
colored leaves, as well, but the colors can be red,
orange, hot pink, white. They’re just incredible
and they’re a plant that I like to say
plays with light. I’ve been developing a program called Light and
Shadow in the Garden. – Okay.
– And, you know enough about me that you know
I designed my house so that the deck is backlit
from my kitchen sink– – Right.
– As the sun is setting and it makes
everything kinda glow. I call it the magic hour. It gilds and it makes
translucent leaves glow like stained glass and
the chards are like that. They really do beautiful
things with light. – Okay. So, you do like chard, don’t ya? – I do like chard.
– Can’t you tell that she like chard a little bit?
– I could go on. And I said rainbow, but there’s
neon lights, bright lights. You can, they’re
a range of colors, but you can also order
solid colors if you want all red or UT orange. – Yeah, I’ve had the
Bright Light, yeah. I like the Bright Light. That’s for sure.
– Yeah. – All right, now
what about kale? – Well, I like to eat kale.
[laughing] Again, yeah, the way you
cook it is all about that. And I like young kale in salads. That’s yummy. Chop it up fine and put a
lot of good stuff in there. But, the kale that I love
and I was so impressed with, I fell in love with up north. They were using it in
Chicago Botanic Garden and Minnesota in
downtown plantings with a little bit of a heater on and it would hold up
through the winter months and I was like, gosh,
that’s incredible. The Redbor is a
deep rich purple. I mean, the ruffles are insane. The texture on that thing and
it grows like a little tree. So, if you’re doing a
container combination, you know the old recipe
thriller, fillers, spiller. – Yeah, spiller, right, yeah. – It does a great
job as that thriller. There is a green one, too,
Winterbor, that’s beautiful. I mean, it’s a light green. In case you need
some green, right? – Right, yeah, okay. – It’s a color too. – It’s a color too. [laughs] – It’s a color too.
– Alright. – So, they’re not always
available locally. Although, some of
our local growers have started
supplying it because there is good demand for it. – That’s good.
– I know some of the people up at Reelfoot, at
the resort area there, the butterfly gardens have
been carrying that now. So, growers are,
you have to find it. You can find it from
them, maybe let them know that you want it. You can actually buy
it in gallon pots or in six packs, usually. – Okay, six packs. All right, so let’s run
through some of these quickly, all right? Purple mustard. – Oh, easy, easy.
– Oh, she says. – It’s so easy. Now, it will get bitten a
little bit in a real had freeze, but it’s one of those if you
get the giant red mustard, that’s such a beauty.
– It is. – And it’s got this fabulous
crumpled, puckered texture to the leaf and if it does
get knocked back a little bit in the winter, a
couple of warm weeks, it comes right back out. So, yeah, that’s
a really good one. Easy, you can just kinda
throw the seed around. I used to go out and sprinkle
it in some of my gardens and pots as summer wanes
right about Labor Day and some of it just comes up as the other things
are dying down. – Hm, yeah, okay. What abut some of
the Asian vegetables? – Asian, I kind of, I always
liked Asian vegetables anyway. Napa cabbage and such. But, I fished an Asian
vegetable catalog out of the garbage
one day at work somebody had thrown out.
[laughing] – Oh, my Gosh. [laughs]
– Oh, man. – And I went crazy. The tatsois.
– Oh, my gosh. – Oh, they’re so beautiful. The glossy foliage and they’re
like little flattened roses and they come in
greens and purples. Oh, they’re just
gorgeous things, and there’s lots of
other, lots of daikon, lots of radishes,
lots of hybrid greens. You could go nuts and I,
you know, you can get online and find a lot of these as well. – Sure.
[laughing] – Now, we’re talking
about the dinosaur kale before we get away from kale.
– All right, let’s do that, let’s do that.
– Because it is one of your very, very toughest. It’s a blue, blue, blue green. And, again, that
gorgeous puckered texture and it’s a very arching plant that kinda gives a little
umbrella effect over everything. And I always have to tell this
story about Felder Rushing. – Oh, yeah.
– You know, he’s got his truck garden.
– Mhm mhm. – He likes to put
the vegetable garden in the back of his
truck ’cause he says that’s his argument
against people who say I don’t have time to garden.
– Ohh. – And it goes with
him everywhere. – Yeah, I’ve seen his–
– And he says, the dinosaur kale
holds up to, you know, cold 70 miles an hour winds
with absolutely no damage, so that’s pretty good testament. – It is. – It’s also free insect control. – Oh, good.
– Ah, didn’t know that. – You’re blowing the bugs off. – Ah, okay, ah, makes sense.
[laughing] Alright, I got it.
– There we go. – I got it. So, let’s hit the
evergreen herbs. Can we do that?
– Oh, I do. Parsley number one ’cause
parsley is gonna stay green through most of our
winter, unless we have a really severe cold snap. Cilantro, not quite so much. And, a lot of people wanna
plant that in the spring and it’s gonna quickly bolt.
– Yeah, lot of people of that. – It actually does
better as a fall crop. – Hm, didn’t know that.
– And then, it’ll make it through a milder winter
fine with no dinging and then all through
spring as well. So, you get several
months of parsley and, often, cilantro, if we
don’t have a really cold winter. And, the green is just fabulous,
especially on the parsley. The flat leaf parsley is the
most desired culinary-wise, but the little crinkly,
fine-textured one, the fern leaf, the
crispa, has got the gorgeous, most gorgeous color to it. So, do those. Also, oregano is
gonna be one of your evergreen perennial herbs. Thyme will also work
and rosemary, though, borderline sensitive to cold. So, I usually use
rosemary in a pot, but I can easily pull
back onto the porch or into the garage if we
have a really cold snap. – Okay.
– But add those to your winter containers, a few pots of
pansies, which are edible, too. – Yes, yeah, yeah.
– For the bright color and you got edible and beauty. – Edible and beauty.
[soft country music] Thank you, Ms. Carol. This is good stuff. Edible and beauty. – I like that.
– I like that. Thank you much. There are a number of
gardening events going on in the next couple of weeks. Here are just a few
that might interest you. [cheerful country music] All right, Rudy,
let’s talk about landscape winter management. What do we need to be
doing as winter approaches? – Well, as winter approaches,
I think what most folks tend to forget is that
this is the perfect time to try and get back
out in the yard. During the summer time,
as Carol was saying, you know, you wanna get inside. You don’t wanna be outside. I’m the kind of person that
doesn’t wanna work outside as well when it’s really hot. – Right. – But, you tend to
forget that, you know, during the winter time,
there, that’s the time where you can actually start
to prepare for your spring. So, getting your lawn
ready for the winter time. You can actually
do your final cuts for your cool season grass. You can do your final
cuts and make sure that you keep them at least
two inches in depth minimum for your cool season. Your warm season, you
might wanna cut them down a little bit
shorter if you want. They’ll start to
turn brown as well, such as your Bermudas
and so forth. When they start to go dormant,
there isn’t really a reason for you to go ahead
and try and fertilize. I think that’s kind
of a wasted effort because nothing is
gonna be happening during the winter time
for dormant lawns. But, you can do some
type of fortification for some of your
cool season grasses. Then, also, your
irrigation system, if you have an irrigation
system in your lawn area, you can also get those
prepared, make sure you blow out and drain those lines,
so they don’t bust during the winter time. And, also, getting
your shrubs ready and your beds ready. Shrubs, you can go ahead
after your last frost, go ahead and start pruning
and getting those cut back. Any of your ornamental grasses, you can go ahead
and let those grow. I would not prune
those back until the spring time
because what your end up happening with
your ornamental grasses, I’m a real big fan
of ornamental grasses because it adds that
texture and color and also sound during
the winter time, which is just wonderful
because during the winter time, usually it’s pretty drab,
you don’t have much color, but you can still add texture. And then, so during the
actual spring, early spring, you would cut those back to
about 12 inches to six inches depending upon the type
of ornamental grasses. – By the way, a friend
gave me a tip on that, too. He puts a bungee cord in before he cuts.
– Yes! – And cut it.
– Yes. I think when I first started
out doing that in landscapes, the biggest thing was, you
know, what are you gonna use? Are you gonna use a weed eater? Do you use sheers? But, it’s just a matter
of trying to control all that huge bunch and I’m
glad you mentioned that. Tying it up first is
the best way to do it and then cutting through it, so you don’t have to drag all
this mess out everywhere, so. – Right, that pretty good. And you actually did mention
something out here Ms. Carol mentions all the time.
– Yeah. – Sound in the garden. Did you hear him mention that? – Yes, I do, I love. – ‘Cause you say
that all the time. – I love things that move. – The sound in the garden,
I think that’s one thing that people tend to forget is they’ll think about color
and they think about texture, but the sound is something that most people don’t, are
not really familiar with or don’t really think about.
– Right. – And it provides some shelter. I often see birds
going into those big grass clumps.
– Yes, yes, that true. And then also, some
rodents as well, but you know.
[laughing] We’re trying to steer
away from those. But also, you can
also take your leaves. Any of those cuttings,
you can then recycle and put that into
your compost pile. Again, if they are diseased,
make sure those particular items, you don’t
put in your compost ’cause you don’t want to
continue the cycle for disease because they can
overwinter in your compost. So, anything that
is actually diseased or has kind of
have pest on them, you will destroy those
or put them in the trash, but anything that is
of good, sound nature, you can put into
your compost pile. And then, also don’t forget
about your, not your rodents, but your birds,
wildlife as well to, if you do have a bird bath,
to try and drain that out or if you are going to
provide some kind of liquid or water for them,
in the winter months, try and maybe have a heater. Then, also, some
good sources of seed or food during the
winter time, as well. – Rudy, I wanna mention,
too, that the shrubs is, remember, those
people might forget that the spring flower shrubs. – Yes.
– Need to be left alone. – Yeah. You have to make sure
that once they flower, that’s the best time
to actually then prune. So, make sure you wait
’til they actually flower, then actually do the pruning. So, a lot of times, we
tell folks to make sure that after they flower, and
then once the leaves come down, especially for the deciduous,
like your crape myrtles and so forth, you can
do your pruning then. – Right, okay. Now, what about, so,
your insect pests? What about applying oils?
– Yes. – How do you feel about that?
– I’m glad you mentioned that. Yeah, this is the
best time as well. During the dormant period,
this is the best time to do any of your dormant oils to address any kind of
scale or thrips or so forth. And so, this is the
best time to do that. Make sure, depending upon
what type of dormant oil you’re gonna utilizing to
look at the instructions because there are
some requirements as to the actual
temperature requirements ’cause if it gets
too cold to actually apply your dormant
oil, you know, it may not be just as effective. So, that’s one thing you
have to take into account. – Yup.
– Okay. Now, let’s go back to
the cool season grasses for a second, our fescues.
– Yes, mhm. – What do we need to
fertilize the fescue with? – Well, nitrogen,
again, is not something that you’re gonna be utilizing
during the dormant periods, but your actual phosphorous and maybe your
potassium as well. And, some of those
fertilizers that are a little bit stronger in
those particular aspects and higher concentration,
less in the nitrogen, is something that you’re
gonna be utilizing during the cool season months. – Okay. And here, we always talk
about the soil test. – Yes.
– Yes. – You know, is this a
good time to do that? Would you agree with that? – Yes, that’s the best time
because during the course of, let’s say, two or three
years, doing your actual cycle of your lawn,
things can change. And so, it’s best
to monitor that. And, if you haven’t
done a soil test, make sure you get
one before you do any application of fertilizers to make sure you’re
doing the right thing and there it’s gonna
be effective, yeah. – Yeah, I think it’s
be very effective. Go ahead.
– And can we mention, like, a little bit
about, I hate to see any shrubs shorn no matter
what time of the year. I’m a big fan of cutting
back at the joint, even to reduce the size
if it’s gotten too big, even it’s a great
big old forsythia, you can follow
those bigger limbs way back into the
shrub and nip ’em off, so that you don’t see
where you had the cut. – Right. I think one thing, I think
the easiest way for most folks is that they’ll just go
around and shear things. – Yes.
– Yes. – And–
– That’s your meatball that you always talk about.
– Yeah. – Yeah, the meatballs, the
cans or the rectangles. – Rectangles.
– And that’s, yeah. I’m not a big fan of those.
[laughing] I think one of the biggest
things that you have when you’re doing your pruning, to take the time and effort to
really think out the process. And so, a lot of times, when
you’re doing your pruning, either there’s gonna
be some topping or some tips or actually
thinning out from the middle and that really what
the kind of pruning that you should be working with, not something that’s going
to just wipe things off and then shape things because
that’s gonna actually help, not help the plant and
destroy the actual features of the plant.
– Sure. – It’s art and
science, you know. I always tell people, step
back and study, you know, and if it’s things like,
say, Japanese Maples touching the house
or over the sidewalk, if you’ll reduce those,
take those limbs off that are the offensive limbs
that are touching the house or over the sidewalk,
back where they came from the trunk or
from the larger limb, you retain the grace
and, eventually, you get it up and over instead
of if you whack it off, you’ll get that little
witch’s broom of regrowth that’s ugly. – And that’s
typical what you see with a lot of crape murder. – Yes, the murder. – Right, crape murder,
where they’ll just cut it off at to a
stump or to a main limb and then you end
up with this ball of like a witch’s broom. And so, that really
destroys the whole structure of the plant.
– Just looks so bad. Jason always says stop the chop. – Stop the chop.
– Stop the chop. – Stop the chop. – Now, I had purchased
some that had crape myrtle bark scale and I just
decided to start them over. – Okay.
– Wow. – I cut them off and retrained
to five-to-seven stems as we were taught
in school, you know, for if you want a
multi-stem crape myrtle. And so, I just went
ahead and began them over to get, made it easier to
get rid of the problem. And maybe out where I am,
I won’t have to treat them. – You are, yeah, okay, okay. One last thing I would
like to cover, though. Going back to the
leaves, can we get folks to stop bagging the leaves up
and leaving them on the curb? – Yeah.
– Oh, yeah. Definitely so.
– In a plastic bag. – I mean, this is
the best time, also, you can use your lawn mower
and then just go ahead and chop everything up
and then reincorporate it into the actual soil.
– Right. – Same thing for not bagging
your actual lawnmower. When you’re doing
the grass cuttings, don’t bag, just go
ahead and mulch. – Or pile it up somewhere. I love how, I keep talking
about Felder today, [laughing]
but how some people make composting very difficult
and they have all these rules and proportions.
– Exactly. – And Felder says
it’s real simple. Don’t throw it away,
pile it up somewhere. – Yeah, that’s true. It’s a very simple concept. I think, you know, you don’t
really need those containers. You don’t need all
these different ratios. Just allow it to just
decompose and then you’re good. – All right, great discussion. That’s good stuff. Thank you much, Rudy. Appreciate that.
– Thanks. [cheerful country music] – A great plant to consider
this next summer is sorrel. This is a Jamaican
sorrel, or rosella. It’s a hibiscus and
it makes great tea. And, this is how you
extract the seeds, or the seed pods using just
a simple milkshake straw and there’s a seed
pod and this is, this is the calyx that you
will dry and make tea out of. In Jamaica, they make
a punch out of this with cinnamon and
ginger and allspice. And, boil that down, strain it and put a little
simple syrup in it and some rum and it’s fantastic. [cheerful country music] – Alright, so here’s
our Q & A segment. Y’all ready? – We’re ready.
– These are good questions. Maybe? [laughs]
– Maybe. – Maybe.
– We’ll see. – Depends on the
question, right? – Yeah.
[laughing] – Alright, so here’s
our first viewer email with a picture. “I have a plum tree that bears
fruit and it’s in full sun. “This past Saturday,
October 19th, “I noticed it was blossoming. “Why is it doing
that this fall? “Will this impact its fruit
production in the spring? Should I trim it?” Right, this is Ian in Memphis. So, we have a couple of
things going on here, right? It’s blooming now.
– We’re all fruit people here, so we’re all dying
like, I got this one. – So, it’s blooming right now. “Will it impact fruit
production in the spring and should I trim it?” You first up. [laughs] – I’d say that it already
thought it had gone dormant. You know, we had such
a hot, stressful, and a lot of plants went ahead
and went into early dormancy just to avoid the
horrible, horrible heat and drought we had. And then, as soon as we
got some rain and cool, it was like ahh.
– Boom. Starts to come back out.
[laughing] – Will it affect production? A little bit. – Yeah, that’s what I thought. Maybe a little.
– Yeah. Not that much. I mean, it’s still gonna
set some flower buds for this year, but yeah,
I wouldn’t prune it back. – (Carol)
No. – Because then you’re gonna
ruin your next year’s crop. But, yeah, it’s nothing
that you need to worry about because, again, it goes
through that cycle, goes through a stress cycle. It was stressed out
and then it came out to better conditions and then it decided to come
back out again, so. – And a reduction in
number of fruit often means larger fruit, too.
– That’s true. – I have a hard time
making myself thin. – That’s true.
– So it’s sort of a natural thinning. – So you might get, yeah,
you might get larger fruit because it’ll be
thinned out slightly. – So, there you have it, Ian. We appreciate that question. And should I trim it now? Ehh, don’t do that.
– No. – Not right now, okay? Just hold off on that. Alright, here’s our
next viewer email. I’ve heard this question a lot. “I have a large mass of ivy
that is climbing my tree. How can I get rid of it
without killing the tree?” And this is Sue
in Collierville. So, Ms. Carol, how
can you get rid of this large mass of ivy
without killing the tree? But, it’s climbing
the tree, though. – Well, you gotta
cut it at the base. You just gotta sever
all those vines and it’s gonna take a long
time for all those vines to drop out of that tree. Unless you can hire
a great big truck with a cherry picker to
pull it all out for you, it’s just gonna be
matter of waiting it out. And then, any new
growth that shows up, I always say cut it
down as close as you can to the ground and
any new growth, that’s gonna be a little
bit more soft and succulent and would take up
an herbicide better as far as killing the roots. People who don’t
wanna use herbicide, you gotta dig and dig and dig.
– About to say, yeah, we have those who don’t
wanna use herbicide. – That’s true.
– And dig and dig. – Have to dig.
– Every time you see it, dig. – It’s a deep– – It’s a long process. Ivy’s really resilient, so
that’s the biggest problem. And, the root system
is gonna stay there for quite some time. – It’s massive, extensive.
– It is, it is. – Right. But, again, what
if somebody wanted to use the herbicide, though? Do you have one that
you would recommend, if I’m asking?
– Oh, well I– – Yeah, if somebody wanted
to use the herbicide. – Glyphosate, I still
believe in glyphosate. You know, the
evidence shows that it breaks down very quickly
once we get into soil. – Okay, okay, okay.
– Mhm. – So, that is one
of the keys, yeah. – Yeah.
– Alright. – Yeah, just in case
somebody wants to use that. – Yes, and I’d warn
them against using one of those very
potent brush killers because that’s gonna
actually hurt the tree. – Yeah, it’s gonna hurt the tree
because they have other chemicals besides
glyphosate in it. – Right, right. – So, it’s gonna–
– I think triclopyr. – Triclopyr, yup.
– Yes. – It’ll take care of
everything. [laughs] – Sure will, yes. You have to be
careful with that. – Oh, and even
that RoundUp 365, be careful.
– See, I’m glad you mentioned that, that’s right.
– Yes, right. – The different formulations.
– ‘Cause it has other, yeah. – That’s right, that’s right.
– So, don’t do it. – If you just do the
standard glyphosate and standard RoundUp,
then you’re okay. But, yeah, as Carol was saying– – Yeah, yeah, see I’m
getting into that. – The different
formulations are tricky– – They are tricky.
– Because it’s all just under RoundUp and people just
pull things off the shelf. – And don’t read the label. [laughing]
Read the label. – Read the label. Read the label,
Ms. Sue, all right? So, thank you for that question. Here’s our next viewer email. “When should I cut
back my pampas grass?” Ms. Carol, what do
you think about that? – Well, we did our–
– We talked a little bit about that.
– Yes. I like the sound, the movement. – Right, exactly.
– And pampas grass is one of the very ones
that I often see birds take cover in as protection. – ‘Cause they’re so large.
– Yeah. The cold winter winds, it’s
good insulation and protection. Other critters, yes,
can be in there as well. I don’t cut anything down
like that until late winter as you said because
I wanna enjoy it. Who wants to look at shorn
things all winter long? – Right, right.
– And I do the same thing to my shrubs, I’m gonna wait
’til later in the winter to prune because I feel like just providing some
protection and perhaps the remnants of, I call
the ghost of summer past, even the old faded blooms.
– Exactly. – A hydrangea, for example.
– Sure, exactly. – You know, there’s
some beautiful things in winter if you look for ’em. Not as colorful, but the
shapes and the textures and so, I would not cut
it down until February, maybe in Memphis.
– Yeah. Maybe in Memphis, yeah.
– Oh, wow, okay, February. Okay.
– About February. – ‘Cause it’ll start putting
up new growth pretty early in the side where
it’s protection and I waited too late
sometimes to cut grasses back. I cut off those
graceful little tips. So, often March,
at least by March. I’d say February would be great. – Yeah, the later you wait,
the reduced amount of time you have with that stark
cut back appearance. And you’ll have some
new growth coming up. – Okay.
– Yup. – And, again, you
tie it up, right? – Tie it up, yeah. – Cut it out like that, okay. All right, so Ms. Carol,
Dr. Rudy, it’s been fun. It’s been fun.
– Always. – Thank you.
– Thank you. – Thank you.
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